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Where is Revore? Where is Aberdeen? Where is Short Mountain? Where is Franklin? Where is Elkridge? Where is Ingo in America? Ingo is situated in the region West Virginia in America! Where is Ingo on the map? Google Maps. Info Statistics and Geographics America is made up of cities in 58 regions. New York. Los Angeles. San Diego. Peggy Gordon is a great song to sing - even if a couple of bits are ingoherent.
From: Liam's Brother Date: 31 Jan 09 - PM Chris, Rather than "straying," the point is that Dennis Smith's 10th and last verse shows in the use of "Spencervania" that someone in the disemination process corrupted not one but two place names, which were probably England and Pennsylvania originally. In case you don't have Miss Creighton's book cited by Malcolm above , the 9th verse is I wish I was as far as Ingo Way out across the briny sea, A-sailing over the deep blue water Where love nor care never trouble me.
All the best, Dan. It could have been originally sung as "England" which would have the same number of syllables and got transliterated, etc. Peggy Gordon is originally believed to be a Scottish song which became popular in all the English speaking countries such that if it wasn't for the Scottish surname, no-one would know of its true origin.
Whether based on a real Peggy Gordon no-one knows. I suspect that even if someone wrote a song based on a real love affair they would change at least one of the names probably the surname. Anyway, Peggy Gordon is a fine song. From: Dennis the Elder Date: 31 Jan 09 - PM Ingo is certainly a common Scandinavian first name, not sure but I believe most scandinavians are Christian and therefore it would be a Christian name.
If you put Ingo in Google it comes up with a plethera of people named thus. I still like the idea that Ingo is a place to go to be happy, pain free and tranquil, as I get older with the niggling pains that accompany age, I wish I was there now, how about you? If anyone figgers out, wherever it may be, how to get there, could you please tell me? There have been one or two fairly knowledgable contributors to this thread who are not prepared to express any certainty as to the origin of the song, beyond acknowledging that versions of it were collected in Nova Scotia by Helen Creighton Btw, I'm not saying that it isn't Scottish, just that evidence is lacking.
It did not seem to exist in England, Scotland or Ireland before although some quote it was written by Robbie Burns. Reading these previous threads there is belief that Ingo does infact refer to England, and one quotes that the "Corries" actualy sang England in their version, arround , although this is unsupported.
I have copied the last message from Malcolm Douglas which he posted on 14th March Whatever the ultimate source s of the song -and attempting to place all the floating verses of which it is made is practically impossible, so often do they occur in so many related and unrelated songs- its modern travels are really a separate issue from a consideration of its origins.
The fact that the tune to which it is sung nowadays is that most associated with the English Banks of the Sweet Primroses further clouds the matter, perhaps. On reflection, I see no reason to exclude -as I had suggested earlier- an Irish source at least in part for the American and Canadian sets, but the same arguments apply at least equally to possible Scottish and English traditional sources; on the whole I think it pointless to make outright claims for any.
This is really only to summarise what was said when this discussion was originally started nearly three years ago. Incidentally Carrickfergus, with its lines: But the sea is wide and I cannot cross over, And neither have I wings to fly links up with The Water is Wide, that other famous floating verse song.
Sounds like "England", although a little indistinct. Did someone from Nova Scotia become a vaudevillian in New York or did a vaudeville singer play Nova Scotia and the verse lingered on there? I had completely forgotten about "Sweet Maggie Gordon" though I have a songster with the words in it. Food for thought I added a reference to a very similar text from a songsheet of around the same date, which also included music.
That music being very different from the published examples from later Nova Scotia oral tradition as most of us know, Mrs Gallagher used the melody usually associated with 'Banks of the Sweet Primroses' , it would seem most likely that the vaudeville collage of floating verses found its way to Nova Scotia and a few other places; in the thread cited, John Moulden referred to a version noted in West Virginia as 'Maggie Goddon' on printed songsheets without music.
The popularity of 'Peggy Gordon' in the Revival over the last forty years or so has led many people to assume that it 'must' have been known in that form in British or Irish tradition prior to the publication of Helen Creighton's book.
There is no evidence at all of that, and no reason to suppose that any of the recordings of the song by popular revival performers like the Corries are anything but arrangements of the song as published by Miss Creighton whether learned directly from the book or via other revival performers , as opposed to being independent 'versions' in their own right.
That is not a value judgement, but a general reminder that such recordings can by definition tell us nothing about what Mr Smith understood by 'Ingo'; only what later interpreters guessed he had meant. So far we have no other example from tradition that uses anything remotely resembling the word, so all answers to the original question must necessarily be guesses; it would be fatuous to pretend otherwise. Some guesses are likely to be better-informed than others, as this discussion clearly illustrates.
Some guesses, indeed, are so desperately unlikely that other people have begun deliberately to post facetious 'answers'; it is not always easy to tell the difference. I agree when you write, "It would seem most likely that the vaudeville collage of floating verses found its way to Nova Scotia. I just had a ramble through Webster's Geographical Dictionary and found no entry for either place in its many pages, which was my suspicion. That leads me to conclude they don't exist.
I've done three market surveys in Nova Scotia as a geographer, and parts of those studies had specifically to do with the name recognition of places beyond the province.
From the results, I'm sure beyond a reasonable doubt - if we are, in fact, talking about real places rather than imaginary ones - that "Ingo" in all likelihood was once England. There is no other " He said this about the song, "Once a new song would come out everybody would have it. You'd hear everybody singing it around home and at parties. There's a lot of it mixed up with another song.
They put them words in it about Cape Breton. I have no idea who wrote it. Thomas's statement is that Nova Scotia working folk could be pretty free-and-easy about details e. Another is that Nova Scotians definitely "mixed up" songs.
What Dennis Smith meant by "Ingo" and "Spencervania" was those very words. This thread asks, "Peggy Gordon: where is Ingo?
When I first read his comments, I thought the other song When Caledonia was "mixed up with" must be either Peggy Gordon or some other with some of the the same floating verses. Looking at his words now, I realize he was referring to the Gaelic song the melody and chorus of which are incorporated into When Although there are certainly parallels with 'Peggy Gordon', it's rather closer to 'When First I Came to Caledonia' and it seems possible that it, or something very like it, could have provided the model for the latter song.
It may also provide an Irish antecedent for 'Peggy Gordon', but is of no help in identifying 'Ingo', on which I doubt there is anything further to say. From: goatfell Date: 07 Feb 09 - AM this is the words from their songboook The Corries complete and it can found on page From: The Sandman Date: 08 Feb 09 - AM does it matter ,can in not be a mythical place,which is different for every singer. From: goatfell Date: 08 Feb 09 - AM why does people read what is said by myself and Jim Mclean in Scotland It's the firplace not a town or a country.
From: goatfell Date: 08 Feb 09 - AM Why Doesn't people read what I and Jim McLean say Ingol means fire pace in Scotland, it's not a town or a country or anything else please read the posts before you make a remark on them. Don't they trust Malcolm Douglas? Helen Dunmore has done a very good job at making you feel as if you were there. Also, the book is very engaging and magical. To conclude I really recommend this book to read because of its description and features.
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